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WHERE IS 'THE WORLD'...?

Posted By: hobie
Date: Monday, 31-May-2004 16:47:01

In Response To: SCIENCE – PERSONAL EXPERIENCE – ANALYSIS... (FarSight3)

: What's "REALITY"? Isn't this a different slice of
: the cake for everyone of us? Different slices, where we all
: agree that they are parts of ONE CAKE?

: So, isn't this 'concept' of nowadays science again an attempt
: to rule (the reality, our INDIVIDUAL reality) by division?

Interesting observation. :)

Some like garlic; some do not like garlic. But human beans have a tendency to adjudicate the outside world based on their inside world experience of it. Therefore, some will be found who will say "garlic is a good thing"; others will be found who will say "garlic is a bad thing". But the garlic is just what it is. :) It can't objectively be either good or bad; we need a context for those adjudications before we can really have understanding of their meaning and significance (if any :).

We have a general human agreement that certain wavelengths of light can be called "blue". However, we do not know, have no way to know, whether each of us is _experiencing_ "blue" the same as each other one. The experience of "blue" is entirely a perceptual one, regardless of the objective and measurable consistency of the wavelengths that trigger that experience. So if Charlie-over-there says "I like blue!" but Martha-over-here says "I really don't like blue at all", it tells us nothing about whether Charley and Martha are having the same perception but different responses, or totally different (but self-consistent) perceptions. Perhaps if Martha "saw" what Charley "sees", Martha would like it, too. :) We dunno.

And that's the point: We dunno. There are certain things we like to say are "objective", implying that this means they have a distinct, free-standing "reality", somehow. However, _everything_ is experienced IN CONSCIOUSNESS, and there's no getting around that. We tend to believe that, if there's a general consistency among human beings about the realness of something, then it must have a distinct, separate-from-human-beings realness of its own. But we don't know that, and cannot prove it - cannot prove it while human consciousness is a factor in all we perceive and all we do and all our communications, one with another. I cannot prove to you that I exist. I cannot prove to myself that you exist (if you do :). I can _know_ that I exist. And that's about as far as it goes.

Some have suggested that Earth's magnetic poles may be changing position or approaching a time when their positioning will change. It's been suggested that fluctuations in Earth's magnetic fields would or do impact directly on human organisms, to include their mechanisms of perception and perhaps physiological functioning as well. According to articles on the Web, some ancient Hopi (I believe) wisdom says there will come a time when things change, and "impossible" things will be seen, swirling in the rushing winds. "When that time comes, go into a cave. And do not look out of the mouth of the cave, or you might go mad." Whatever the basis for that advice, it seems consistent with a theory that something about Earth's characteristics might abruptly change; and that wild weather patterns could accompany the change; and that human perception could change at the same time.

Speculating: Suppose Earth's fields are shifting right now? Not abruptly; but shifting. What would it do to our human perceptions of the 'objective' world? What should we make of the idea mentioned above, that "impossible things" would be seen? Have we ever seen anything 'impossible' in our dreams? (I have - not 100% impossible; but certainly very improbable. :) Where do such images come from? They 'have existence' within human consciousness, and in human perception; we do not know that they have existence anywhere else. But the point is, since we experience the world in consciousness, differing perceptions and differing observations should theoretically be possible, as a normal (though perhaps not usual) aspect of living in the world. If the magnetic fields we're immersed in should change in quality and character, locally or globally, it doesn't seem unlikely that the way we experience the worlds of our observation would also change.

--hobie

Articles In This Thread

STOP THIS ASTRONOMICAL NONSENSE
UselessEater -- Monday, 31-May-2004 02:45:42
SCIENCE – PERSONAL EXPERIENCE – ANALYSIS...
FarSight3 -- Monday, 31-May-2004 07:15:24
EVEN MORE ASTRONOMICAL NONSENSE
UselessEater -- Monday, 31-May-2004 09:01:01
Re: EVEN MORE ASTRONOMICAL NONSENSE
FarSight3 -- Monday, 31-May-2004 09:46:58
STOP THIS GASTRONOMICAL NONSENSE!
CliffMickelson -- Monday, 31-May-2004 12:06:04
URGENT REPLY FROM A READER: "RMN´s VIEWPOINT"....
FarSight3 -- Monday, 31-May-2004 13:57:24
DEAR READER!! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!
Rayelan -- Monday, 31-May-2004 14:34:42
I AGREE WITH YOU AND ANDY UP TO A POINT!!
mailbag_reader -- Monday, 31-May-2004 23:36:14
Reply: SCIENCE – PERSONAL EXPERIENCE – ANALYSIS...
FarSight3 -- Monday, 31-May-2004 14:02:19
Reply2: SCIENCE – PERSONAL EXPERIENCE – ANALYSIS...
FarSight3 -- Monday, 31-May-2004 15:27:41
Reply3: SCIENCE – PERSONAL EXPERIENCE – ANALYSIS...
FarSight3 -- Monday, 31-May-2004 16:09:16
WHERE IS 'THE WORLD'...?
hobie -- Monday, 31-May-2004 16:47:01
SLOW MOTION DOOMSDAY, GRINDING THE MILL
HeraldAp -- Monday, 31-May-2004 16:00:15
WHERE ARE ALL THE ASTRONOMERS, HE ASKS!!!! *PIC*
Esclarmonde -- Monday, 31-May-2004 18:21:56
COULD THIS BE IT? PLANETOID IN DUSTCLOUD/REALM WAVE? *PIC*
Esclarmonde -- Monday, 31-May-2004 19:21:30
WHAT IS THIS A PICTURE OF?
billym -- Tuesday, 1-Jun-2004 04:44:15
WHERE IS YOUR RIGHT BRAIN?
Esclarmonde -- Tuesday, 1-Jun-2004 16:11:27

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