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READERS REPLY, ATTACKS ONGOING, FLAME WARS?, GOOD INFO

Posted By: PRAVDASEEKER
Date: Tuesday, 25-May-2004 14:06:42

In Response To: SEVERAL ODDITIES IN COSMOS ONGOING READ&RUMINATE!! (PRAVDASEEKER)

Dear RMN Readers and Agents,

WElcome to one of this absurdly insane writers side interest in things in the cosmos!

There have been some recent posts that appear to wish to totally kill these threads on the X thing, moons tardiness, etc.

That is ok, that is one thing that makes RMN such a great place to get information! One of the above mentioned posts talks about our posts on the moon and planets detracting from things and threats terrestrial... I disagree with this to a large extent for the following reason, mainly I fully believe things heavenly and threats earthly are/could be, tied together, in a few different ways too! Of those of you have not read the E.M. series on End of Days, please do so...

http://www.enterprisemission.com/millenn.htm

This excellent 5 part read, is very educational. This series should engrain in the readers brain proof positive of the elites obsession with the heavens also. It is my firm belief that as an RMN agent trying to look at all aspects of our world, and find answers; it is imperative to look into rumors and theories of this nature also.

To address some of the responses received from amatuer astronomy societies; I would like to remind folks that in alot of these societies, you have mainstream astronomy "groupies". The leadership positions in these socities are usually occupied by a mainstream groupie.. how else to rub shoulders with the likes of SAGAN, (when he was still among the living, etc.), unless you adhere to mainstream science precepts? How else to get amatuer time on the big scopes, that these very intelligent scientists control? Not only are they very intelligent, but SOME OF these scientists in their own right, are also egotistical, and meglomaniacal in nature. Condescending, and a know it all attitude.

Attacks on my computer, Cliffs computer, have increased. Receiving numerous hate mails, from noone@noone.com, etc. bogus emails full of hate.. then angry because we do not post THEIR emails to us... sigh... RMN 's DOS attacks significantly increased after the posts on things lunar, and planetary increased, and especially after we started putting some HARD information out there.. one does not need a degree in astronomy to tell the fricking time! LOL.

I think there could be a tie to the attacks and the posts.. RMN attacks in general could be the overall truth that RMN puts out, and "they" are trying to stop.. but the attacks on the agents personal computers, and hate mails, in my opinion points to RMN BEING ONTO SOMETHING< OTHERWISE WHY THE FRIGGING HUGE HATE MAIL THING?? And it seems to point to something cosmic also..

On to the responses from societies, and from our treasured RMN READERS!!

SNIP FROM RESPONSE FROM SOCIETY-

"The stuff about the Sun and Moon being out of position seem to be new additions to the original Planet X theories and have come to light since the world *did not* end last year as these people predicted in the years leading up to 2003. Suffice to say that the Sun, moon and planets are all in the places astronomers expect them to be. For example, the moon "eclipsed" the planet Venus last Friday - an event which has been anticipated for a long time and which took place as expected at the predicted times. If the moon were out of position by even the tiniest amount it would be noticed by the many independent amateur astronomers around the world who witnessed this event!" END SNIP

This response attempts to place our observations into the FAMOUS PLANET X conspiracy theory, and attempts to tie our observations as some mental dilusion, and the fact that the world was not destroyed in 2003, we are totally DEBUNKED! LMAO! This particular response smacks of psy-ops.. it does not even address the moons lateness and the verified lateness according to US Naval Observatory rise and settings tables. It ALSO DOES NOT address the proposed question as to the moons lateness DUE TO A POSSIBLE CHANGE IN EARTH ROTATIONAL SPEEDS, or a WOBBLE as in a TOP SPINNING DOWN, which plausible and theoretically explain the off and on timings of rising and settings! A knowledgable astronomer would've known that a viewed difference in the moons behavior, could easily be caused by something terrestrial going on too. I do not believe 100% in anything that the internet has in rumors pertaining to the planets and moon per se', but I do read it all, and digest it.. and when I see oddities, I question them, and seek and answer.

Another RESPONSE SNIP

"Watch out for the Venus transit on 8th June. If it doesn't happen, then I might give some thought to the matter. Until then, the theory must be considered as totally false. " END SNIP

This response doesnt begin to talk about the moon at all. The planets will continue in their orbits despite a change in earths behavior, or an incoming planet, or comet, or whatever...SO..if VENUS TRANSITS THE SUN< THEN WE ARE FULL OF S**T, BASICALLY..lol. Off the topic, does not address our observations, and then PROCLAIMS THAT IF A KNOWN EVENT WILL OCCUR WITHOUT HANGUP, then we are totally FALSE? TYPICAL psy-ops response ALSO! Therefore, my interest is peaked even more in this area of our RMN concerns..lol. And if the axis of earth has been tilted a might... THIS TRANSIT WOULD STILL BE VISIBLE TOO!

AND NONE of them responded to a change in the planetary ecliptic, except by a lengthy explanation on precession, and etc, that we ALL KNOW ABOUT ALREADY, and the changes noted are much greater than those known by precessional movements, and axis wobble...

ON TO TREASURED READERS RESPONSES!!!! THE BEST PART!!
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Re: SEVERAL ODDITIES IN COSMOS ONGOING READ&RU....

"And it seemed to set real close to "assigned" azimuth heading
according to a couple of planetary applets. Oddly, some other planetary applets I have gone to BEFORE tonight, WERE NOT UP AND RUNNING tonight? Being modified to reflect changes in cosmos?? Just a thought folks."

Maybe that's why its now a terrorist act to have a farmer's almanac in your possession. You might look up the sunrise-sunset data, lunar data and realize something is amiss. Nothing like a bunch of panicky, forth density reptiles crawling around.
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Re: SEVERAL ODDITIES IN COSMOS ONGOING READ&RU....

Thanks, Pravdaseeker, for your terrific posts.

"And I haven't begun to touch on the Mayan Calendar thing..."

Well, you should. What the Mayan Calendar marks with its infamous 21 Dec 2012 end times date is that date at which the Earth moves across the Galactic Equator. You have two things to be aware of for this event:

1) Equatorial Effects on Rotation: the rotational direction that water follows as it rushes down a drain is reversed as you move across the Earth's equator. That means as the Earth moves across the equator of Milky Way Galaxy, in theory the Earth may have to reverse its rotation--which would rip the Earth's crust apart, flip its magnetic poles, etc. (sound familiar?)

2) Day/Night: We could be living in either the Galaxy's version of Night or Day. As we move across the Galaxy's Equator, we could moving from a 26,000 year Galactic Night into a 26,000 year Galactic Day or vice versa. Either way, the effect on our consciousness could be equated to go from waking to sleeping or sleeping to waking. What's your guess?
Are we awake or presently living in a dream world? The Olmecs hailed the passage over the Galactic Equator as the coming of the "New Fire". The Cross of Hendea (sp) hails it as the end of the world.

As we all swim up this stream of conspiracy theories and doomsday confusion, keep your eye on THIS prize. Let the Galactic Equator become the equator of your mandala of doomsday information.

-Stephen XXXX
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Re: SEVERAL ODDITIES IN COSMOS ONGOING READ&RU....

Hi 'Seeker,

I read the series of posts in your thread with interest. I know that the amateur astronomer in my area is an ex-commercial aircraft employee and refuses to see the visible evidences of the aerosol spraying operations; I presume he will neither admit to cosmic anomaly. I do suspect many amateurs could be coerced into silence on cosmic disorder...if of course they are observing any.

I observed about 9PM the other evening by naked eye that
the Southern Cross and its two pointers seemed compressed back towards the zodiac and the southern celestial pole seemed higher off the horizon.

Several hours later, early next morning, Scorpius seemed a few degrees further south than where I presumed it should be. Cloud cover is making consistent observations here in the southern hemisphere difficult. I use the word "seemed" judicioulsy because I have no instruments to validate my unaided observations.

I suspect Shemesh may switch off during either this transit
of Noga or the 2012 transit. I do not know which. Perhaps somewhere after the transit of Noga(Venus) in late June near the 18th New Moon to the 21st solstice when Noga is Ben-Shakhar we might witness some cosmic disorder, but nothing of the likes as portrayed by the professional doomsayers. Noga and Ma.adim (Venus and Mars) should be observed to be off
their orbits if this happens next month.

Your Friend, Jack
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Ionospheric Skip

Related, I suppose, to these things astronomical, and to Cliff's
observations, is an oddity I am now seeing this Sunday for the third day in a row. I live 45 miles N. of Spokane WA, and I often listen to NPR, that fount of Illuminist suppositions, broadcast from an FM station in Spokane. I have never in three years had even a hint that I have been receiving it on a skip, off the ionosphere, since reception has been flawless and always at the same unvarying strength, thus I thought the station
was powerful. But now for 3 days it drifts in and out, mostly out, supplanted by other FM sideband noise. Something drastic has happened to the ionosphere, I must suppose! ...in the last 3 days. I had never heard the station drift or sag at all! sign me "reader
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Re: LOCAL ASTRONOMERS WILL KNOW. ASK THEM

Hi PRAVDASEEKER!

Thanks for the post and the link..lots of insightful reading found there. Below, there is a link with a considerably smaller 5 page article written by Jordan Maxwell introducing Astro-Theology. This is an unknown field of study to most of the public for obvious reasons. Hope you enjoy it. You may well have already read it:)

Also another person to look up with related work found on the net would be Michael Tsarion with his 'High Window' articles.

http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/astromain1a.html

Cheers,derek
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Well, there you have it. Some of the hate mails were you are spreading fear..lol. I say BS..lol. I do not FEAR anything from what I write about NOR is it EVER intended to induce fear in the readers. Anomolies are noted, questions are spawned, answers are sought, pretty damn logical natural concerns to me... just want answers. Heck, Hoagland has bumped his head against the hallowed halls of mainstream astronomy for years, and even HE has difficulty getting progress and cooperation from peers in his field. Yet, this man is a true scientific talent, and his works and words have been ignored. Some of his stuff, I am not ashamed to say, should be Nobel Prize considered material...especially after his works become truth in the years after their writings...

Hang in there, keep looking up, but ALSO don't forget to look over your shoulder either! LOL> As a truth seeker, I will continue to do both, and try to inform RMN readers of oddities and theories and whatever, both heavenly and earthly. As I am sure what we are dealing with here on earth is ALSO tied to the heavens..in several ways.

PRAVDASEEKER

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Articles In This Thread

SEVERAL ODDITIES IN COSMOS ONGOING READ&RUMINATE!!
PRAVDASEEKER -- Sunday, 23-May-2004 04:17:33
FORGOT TO MENTION ANOTHER ASPECT ON ODDITIES!
PRAVDASEEKER -- Sunday, 23-May-2004 04:43:46
LOCAL ASTRONOMERS WILL KNOW. ASK THEM
UselessEater -- Sunday, 23-May-2004 06:11:08
Re: LOCAL ASTRONOMERS WILL KNOW. ASK THEM
PRAVDASEEKER -- Sunday, 23-May-2004 07:44:49
OUR SYSTEM IS AN INTERCONNECTED 'REALM'...
FarSight3 -- Sunday, 23-May-2004 13:46:55
IMPORTANT! Response&ANSWER: YUP! Your RIGHT ON TRACK...
FarSight3 -- Tuesday, 25-May-2004 07:51:22
READERS REPLY, ATTACKS ONGOING, FLAME WARS?, GOOD INFO
PRAVDASEEKER -- Tuesday, 25-May-2004 14:06:42

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