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GORELICK DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENT ~LINK

Posted By: Ghost
Date: Wednesday, 14-Apr-2004 23:28:54

In Response To: 9.11 PANELIST WROTE MEMO THAT MADE WALL THAT CAUSED 911 (Rayelan)

Declassified Memo by Jamie Gorelick

http://www.nationalreview.com/document/document_1995_gorelick_memo.pdf

: 9.11 PANEL MEMBER WROTE MEMO THAT ESTABLISHED WALL THAT
: CAUSED 9.11

: "9-11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick wrote a 1995
: memo that established a "wall" between the
: criminal and intelligence divisions, hindering the ability
: of the U.S. government to detect the Sept. 11, 2001, plot,
: according to testimony today by Attorney General John
: Ashcroft."

:

WHY IS SHE STILL ON THE PANEL? DO
: YOU THINK SHE CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL?
: I DON'T...IT'S HER REPUTATION THAT IS ON THE
: LINE!

:
: What does this mean to you and me? It means that if this memo
: hadn't been written and the right hand could share criminal
: information with intelligence -- i.e. terrorist
: information... that there "might" have been a
: possiblity that 9.11 could have been prevented. The
: question we need to ask now is WHY did the Clinton
: administration want to create a wall that walled off
: criminal activities from terrorist activities... didn't
: anyone in that adminstration realize that the two go hand
: in hand?

: If someone steals 10,000 pounds of dynamite... does this mean
: that the FBI investigating the theft can't talk to the FBI
: or CIA that are invetigating people in the country that
: might want to blow things up? What was the REAL reason
: behind this law?

: We might have the ask the NYT and why they objected so much to
: the FISA laws... needless to say.. without the NYTimes on
: their side... the Clintons couldn't have gotten where they
: did and STAYED there!! They had to keep the NYT on their
: side. When is someone going to look into what they Times
: had to gain?

: Here is part of an article from Commentary Magazine that
: explains ALL of this. I have excerpted a small part... if
: you really want to understand what is going on here...
: please read the entire article.

: Also remember... it doesn't matter WHO is funding these people
: or WHO these people really are... we can debate that later
: after we have stopped all of this. If people are shooting
: at you, you cant' take the time to find out if the NWO
: bought their guns or if Bush supplied their bullets... if
: you do this you are going to end up dead!

: If you are being shot at, you have to stop those who are
: shooting at you first... and THEN when you are out of
: harm's way you will have the luxury of looking back and
: trying to figure out who was really behind all of this!
: then we can point to the Rothchilds, or the NWO, or Skull
: and Bones or Israel... or the man in the moon... but right
: now if we don't all start hanging together as a FREE
: nation... I assure you... we will no longer exist as a free
: nation... possible not even as a nation.

: At the moment... people who believe in a God that gives them
: free will and RIGHTS... are under attack!! The kind of
: government that says that ALL our rights come from GOD...
: is under attack!! If people don't wake up in a real
: hurry... we will have fallen victim to this latest Hegelian
: attack on freedom!

: also remember... most people who work for government love
: freedom as much as you and I do. they are NOT part of the
: cabal that is trying to turn us into the Soviet States of
: America. They are ordinary people who probably don't even
: know as much about what's going on in the world as you do.

: The man who wrote the following article is one who understands
: the mess and seems to have a good overview of the big
: picture... you really need to read the entire article.

:
:
: The Intelligence Mess: How It Happened, What to Do About It

: Andrew C. McCarthy

: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article.asp?aid=11704013_1

: snip snip snip -- this section is about halfway down the
: article: Even as militant Islam began its terrorist war
: against the United States with the 1993 WTC bombing and the
: 1994-95 "Bojenka" plot to blow a dozen American
: airliners out of the sky over the Pacific, the Justice
: Department was worrying that agents and prosecutors might
: be perceived to be using intelligence-gathering authority
: to build criminal prosecutions. Often, the result was weeks
: or more of delay, during which identified terrorists who
: happened also to be committing quotidian crimes went
: unmonitored while the government dithered over whether to
: employ FISA or the criminal wiretap law. The insanity
: reached its apex in 1995 with the "primary
: purpose" guidelines drafted by the Clinton
: administration: henceforth, a firewall would be placed
: between criminal and national-security agents, generally
: barring them even from communicating with one another.

: The damage from the firewall and the impediments to FISA has
: been incalculable. It took ten years to make the
: racketeering case against Sami al-Arian, the professor
: accused of helping run the murderous Palestinian Islamic
: Jihad from the campus of South Florida University, because
: the wealth of information collected by intelligence agents
: was withheld from their criminal counterparts. And that was
: a pittance compared with what happened in the waning weeks
: before the September 11 attacks. Zacarias Moussaoui, who
: had paid cash for pilot training (and was reported to
: authorities when his bizarre behavior—including intense
: interest in how cabin and cockpit doors worked—could no
: longer be ignored), was detained by the immigration
: service. Worried FBI intelligence agents were desperate to
: search his computer, but were turned down by supervisors
: who decided there was insufficient evidence to go to the
: FISA court. His al-Qaeda membership and numerous
: connections to the hijackers were not uncovered until after
: the attacks.

: And the Moussaoui travesty itself pales in comparison to the
: story of Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi,
: excruciatingly recounted in Slate by Stewart Baker, general
: counsel of the National Security Agency during the early
: Clinton administration. The pair, who had trained to pilot
: planes, lived in California. In August 2001, an astute FBI
: intelligence agent was trying to find them, and asked the
: criminal division for help. But FBI headquarters stepped in
: and insisted that the firewall not be breached: criminal
: agents were to stay out of the intelligence effort. A few
: weeks later, al-Midhar and al-Hazmi plunged Flight 77 into
: the Pentagon, their manifold ties to Mohammed Atta and the
: other hijackers kept safely under wraps.

: V

: In attempting to "connect the dots" on how branches
: of our government erected barricades against efficient
: information-sharing, one cannot avoid addressing the most
: basic blunder of all. In the years after World War II, the
: designers of the CIA conceived of it as, in one sense, an
: analogue to the American military. Just as the armed forces
: are generally precluded by law from domestic policing
: (which is left to the FBI and other federal, state, and
: local agencies), so the CIA could not conduct its
: operations within U.S. territory.

: The CIA, then, is confined to foreign intelligence and
: counterintelligence activities. When leads cross into U.S.
: territory, the FBI takes over—mainly through its
: foreign-counterintelligence division, which is separate
: from its law-enforcement side. This division of labor, and
: not simple rivalry, is the salient reason for the
: inter-agency warfare of the last half-century.

: Turf aside, however, the structure is not analogous to the
: military doctrine of posse comitatus, which bars the armed
: forces from domestic policing. For if the United States
: were invaded by a foreign army, our military would respond;
: that would be a national-defense function, not policing.
: Similarly, hostile foreign operatives within the
: U.S.—plotting, recruiting, providing funding and material
: support to their principals—fit the mold of an invading
: foreign army far better than that of a criminal
: collaborator.

: Yet U.S. law and tradition (strenuously supported by many of
: the same politicians who today bluster about the CIA’s lack
: of dot-connecting skills) rig intelligence as if it were
: Russian roulette: the agency whose raison d’être is to
: counter foreign threats to our national security is
: precluded from participating in investigations once they
: cross into our nation, while the agency that is expected to
: pick up the ball and run with it from there does so without
: the CIA’s depth of knowledge and expertise.

: The ill-conception of this arrangement has become increasingly
: patent. With the info-tech revolution, al-Qaeda operatives
: seamlessly share information across borders with the click
: of a mouse, enabling them instantly to construct a complete
: picture of their prey. By contrast, the forces charged with
: keeping us safe from them are expected to complete awkward
: hand-offs as persons and information roam in and out of the
: country. The windfall beneficiary is, ironically, the
: terrorist operative who happens also to be an American
: citizen. Such an operative is not only protected by the
: full panoply of constitutional rights wherever in the world
: he travels but is radioactive to the CIA, which is no less
: fearful of the perception that it is spying on Americans
: than the Justice Department was about the appearance of
: misusing FISA.

: VI

: It is bad enough that, prior to 9/11, terrorists could easily
: survive in the lacunae of our domestic intelligence
: apparatus. Worse, they positively thrived on the way it
: operated.

: Throughout the eight years of the Clinton administration, as
: militant Islam’s jihad against America escalated, the
: federal courts became the linchpin of counterterror
: strategy. This began understandably enough. The 1993 WTC
: bombing was viewed as a domestic crime. Although, years
: later, investigators and journalists would link the bombing
: to al Qaeda, and al Qaeda in turn to prior terrorist acts
: against the U.S., at the time not much was known about
: Osama bin Laden, his network, and his national support
: systems in Afghanistan and Sudan. No one credibly could
: fault President Clinton for handling the matter as a court
: case or for not responding militarily. As the murder and
: mayhem grew, however, and as it became clearer that
: indictments were a pusillanimous response to suicide
: bombers geared to obliterate American embassies and naval
: destroyers, Clinton stayed the self-defeating course.
:

: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RUMORMILLNEWS/message/17609

: GORELICK SHOULDN'T BE ON THE 9.11 COMMITTEE, SHE SHOULD BE
: TESTIFYING BEFORE IT!!

:
: http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/04/27/National/Gorelick.Memo.Exposes.feckles
: \s.Clinton.Policy-658995.shtml

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Articles In This Thread

9.11 PANELIST WROTE MEMO THAT MADE WALL THAT CAUSED 911
Rayelan -- Wednesday, 14-Apr-2004 21:00:04
GORELICK DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENT ~LINK
Ghost -- Wednesday, 14-Apr-2004 23:28:54
HMMMM... AMERICA! SOMETHING IS ROTTEN ON THIS COMMISSION!
PRAVDASEEKER -- Wednesday, 14-Apr-2004 23:54:37
GORELICK REFUSES TO STEP DOWN, LAME EXCUSES!!!
PRAVDASEEKER -- Thursday, 15-Apr-2004 13:23:07
GORELICK US OFFICIAL MOST RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11
Ghost -- Thursday, 15-Apr-2004 13:38:33
GORELICK MEMO IS A BRICK IN THE SCHEME OF THE BREAKDOWN
Ghost -- Thursday, 15-Apr-2004 17:22:56

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