: A reader sent the information that follows my analysis
: regarding 2 UN officials that stepped-down from the UN
: Oil-For-Food program in 98 and 2000.
The same reader has interacted with me on a number of subjects and has provided more analysis on the UN scandal. I intended to add further comments myself, however, I have 'unexpected' work to do and wanted to provide this information for you all. Perhaps other agents will weigh in and help out on this! I'd love to hear what you have to say on the subjects the reader has brought up!
I've included a few comments within the text below [in brackets]
Blessings,
Mammonator
Dear Mammonator, I read the entire thread last night. There were a few very interesting points in it.
Firstly, I was pretty fed up when I read Rayelan's post assuring us that there were WMD in Iraq and they'd sold them to the Chinese. So once again, SH [Saddam Hussein] will be the scapegoat. I'm glad that was picked up. (Also VERY glad that Rayelan is so willing to post opinions that differ from hers.)
And it pleased me to read that Russia and France are not the "baddies" the US makes them out to be. I think here we need to listen to Rayelan when in defence of Bush Jnr she says to notice that the mass media are not being kind to him. The US's mass media (from what I can gather) has been very down on these countries, so perhaps that should have told us a lot?
Now to Dennis Halliday etc. Mammonator, I do not find it necessary to believe that they left because the UN was no longer serving their socialist interests. [True, not necessary, just a possibility in light of the Partisan's post, in my opinion. M] Many very good people have worked for the UN, and this is something that should have always been taken into account in my opinion. I read in a book on Rwanda that as some UN people boarded the planes they had to leave on they threw away their UN badges in disgust. That had nothing to do with a socialist agenda, but a lot to do with the fact that they believed there would be a bloodbath (which there was) and they should have stayed on in order to help prevent it.
I have also read that Kofi Annan was the US's choice for UN leadership. He was easier to use than the last one. So whatever he's done, the US will be aware of this.
I think we absolutely have to implicate many people in the US in the UN fiasco. Sure, they may be F1. But the US has basically controlled the UN and rendered it pretty much useless for a very long time. (See below where I speak of the mini-series "Amerika".)
There is a book you may find interesting. It's called "Derailing Democracy", and it's by David McGowan. Chapter by sad chapter, this book gives FACTUAL instances of how the US prevented the UN from carrying out (either vetoing or just registering - alone or with Israel) so many humane plans over so many years that the US cannot reasonably extricate itself from this. The US, whether F1 or F2 (or Fwhatever) has caused massive genocide and murder throughout the world in what appears to be empire building. What they have done in the name of preventing socialism (communism) has been totally inhumane. They've assisted coups of democratically elected leadersall over the world - Aristide, Chevez, Milosevic and on and on. The list is endless.
Have you read "Killing Hope..." by William Blum? Or his later "Rogue State..."? These books take you chapter by chapter into the very dark world of US politics in country after country.
[No, I haven't - any other agents?]
To me it would be better to say yes, the US has done many, many evil things to many people all over the world, and then start talking of which faction did it. To me this would be more honest than blaming everything onto the UN. And no, I do not believe the UN is blameless.
Did you watch the mini-series "Amerika"? [just a few snippets, but other agents, I'm sure, have seen more] It was talked about on RMN and I determined to get it. Amazon didn't have it and I couldn't find it anywhere on the net. Rayelan found it very difficult to obtain. I walked into my local video shop and there it was, so I bought (yes, bought) it for $20. There were four videos. I had them taped and have sent them to Rayelan.
Now in about the middle of video three Kris Kristoffersen, as the true patriot, was running for president (this was a look back at that time and the things he had said). And he said that the US had systematically stripped the UN of any real power and that was why Russia had been able to take over America. Russia here would mean communism.
Well, America was taken over, and as time progressed the Russians started to carve it up. (Balkanise it? Just like the US did to ex- Yugoslavia? And probably plans to do with the middle east?) And of course the patriots didn't like it. Any more than most Yugoslavs didn't like it when the US did it to them via NATO.
And I do wonder if American patriots would be as brave as the Serbs were. Did you know they held hands across historic bridges in the hope that the pilots wouldn't drop bombs on them? And they did anyway? Then they came back after giving people enough time to go to what was left of the bridge to help the wounded and remove the dead and bombed them all over again. They held out for 78 days and nights of constant bombing. Would Americans? Yes, some would I'm sure.
Then the US made up their "kangaroo" world court at the Hague. Which Milosevic always, and rightly, called a kangaroo court. Of course NATO people can't be tried at this "world court" as NATO people via the US are paying for and running this farce. But when a REAL world court is mentioned, Americans are horrified. Oh no. We won't have our people tried by a world court! Really??? Why not??? (And no, I'm not for a world court either. Just showing what I see as hypocrisy.)
Now on to Iraq, the sanctions and the WMD.
When I become interested in a subject I buy as many and as varied books as I can find. A particularly good biography of SH is called: "Saddam Hussein - the Politics of Revenge" by Said K Aburish. This book actually lets you understand the man (not a ready made monster) and the very good things he did for the country before things started going horribly wrong. He was prone to killing political enemies, but that was not THAT unusual in Iraq. Gradually, worn down by the dirty tricks of the US, the wars, etc you could see him changing. This author actually resigned from the safety of London as Hussein got involved more and more in chemical weaponry. The CIA was always there, but SH was not willingly their tool. Overall he was useful as he could keep the people under control very well - yes, murder and torture. But then the CIA isn't too bad at that, either. This author's opinion of SH was NOT good, but he was able to see the big picture - something Americans are denied by their government.
Regarding the WMD, I had been reading on "Yellow Times" articles posted by an Imad Khabduri for some months before the war. He was adamant there were no more WMD. Now he, too, had gotten out of SH's clutches, so he had no love for the man. The book is called: "Iraq's Nuclear Mirage - Memories and Delusions", and is worth reading. Of course Scott Ritter, who worked with UMSCOM, fought tirelessly to expose the WMD charade and prevent war, but there really was no stopping the US.
I read anything by John Pilger (an ex-Aussie journalist in England) and Robert Fisk, from England also. They go to where the action is. Fisk has remained in Iraq from well before the start of the last war. I believe I get honesty from them. Of course without the Faction information, and that is where I learn a great deal from RMN.
Perhaps these two journalists, who have been around for a very long time, are closet socialists and against the poor old US. But I don't think so. In my opinion they're just good journalists.
Another set of books I'm getting through is Malachi Martin's series of books on the Vatican. For whatever reason, and I tend to believe he had great faith that the current pope would be able to fight the NWO people in the church, he gives an excellent account of the factions in his own way. He says there are the people who want a European only NWO and there are those who want to include the US. And he goes into great detail about these mindsets.
Personally, I think the US is in the middle of a coup, started at least as far back as 911, and those running the government today are aiming at a US NWO only. I see them using christian dominionism maybe. They already show extremely fascist tendencies.
Much of what Rayelan says I can accept. A great deal really. But for me the jury is definitely out on Bush Jnr. Also, I'm inclined to believe that any faction which can cheerfully allow thousands of Iraqis, Afghanis, Yugosavs, Haitians, Columbians etc etc to die for their cause is just as bad as any of the factions fighting for the right to run the NWO. "Thou shalt not kill" still stands. Murder by war is still murder. And yes, I know about the idea that some people have to do very bad things for good to triumph. Another area I have great difficulty with. I am no longer in the church, but the idea that good cannot be achieved through bad actions still holds... I'd like your opinion on that, and how you get around it please.
[I wouldn't 'get around it' - I suspect I'd 'go through it. I would suggest a read through a couple of my earlier post and I will try to add more on this subject later:
EVIL as a PROOF of GOD'S EXISTENCE
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=44647
and
READER INTERACTION on THE EVIL IN OUR MIDST
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=44676 ]
Interesting that Kofi Annan has been "set up as the patsy to take the fall". But that is typical US tactics and could be just as well done by the US as the UN.
Mammonator, if you take the time to read this, I must thank you yet again. Please contradict me where necessary. I have faith that you will do this from your heart, and therefore it will aid me in my understanding.
[You have asked some questions that I would love to see the other agents comment upon... I would acknowledge that this is not an area of my greatest strengths and have given my better opinions earlier in the thread - I believe others may answer better and I leave you to them!! Thank you for your dedication to seeking the truth! - Mammonator]
Kind regards
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