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After several exchanges between us I confess I have yet to understand what it was about my original post that got your dander up. Since we both recognize & respect each other as intelligent humans committed to personal freedom and the the overthrow of tyranny, and since your arguments have in their reaching invoked aesthetics as somehow a benchmark of True Spiritualily, and since you persisted in this manner after I told you it was the Knights Templars who created Gothic architecture, I can only conclude that this is not some Socratic dialog between us, it is more Freudian if anything (and I don't use that in a sexual context, merely a psychoanalytic one), and that whatever it is you and I are really "arguing" about is something you have not yet stated, and I respectfully await your stating of it. We are all human beings here, and God knows being human is a tough job these days.
