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Fatima and Brother Blue???

Posted By: Rick
Date: Thursday, 27-Apr-2000 16:04:59
www.rumormill.news/2827

In Response To: Fatima & Blue Rings (BlueRose)

Hello Blue Rose -

I think you may have picked a hazardous handle. I hope you are ok with it...

Anyway -

Thank you much for the info -

I am half-way through Martin's Book and I also think that the Pope John Paul's visit to Fatima, Portugal on May 13/14, 2000 will be viewed by some ( possibly computer-literate cults ), as Catholic power-play - to secure the meaning of Fatima Prophecies as "Marion" visions, if such visions occur. My hypothesis is that some Millennial Prophecies may be directed for agenda or perhaps, for ascension in a Freemason cult - 'climbing the Pyramid on our dollar bill' - understand???

Subject: RE: Hacking of Naval Intelligence by Brother Blue Cult (F)

April 21, 2000 Ronald L. Broersma Naval Ocean Systems Center (NET-NOSC-ETHER) San Diego, CA 92152-5000 ron@NOSC.MIL (old) (619) 553-2293 (DSN) 553-2293

Mr. Broersma (ron@spawar.navy.mil)

I have not received an answer from you so I called and left a message for you [Mr. Broersma] at ~09:00, Friday, April 21, 2000. I am sending this email momentarily:

The American Computer Company with Jack Shulman as its CEO has a sister company in Russia (http://www.acc.ru/). The logo "ACC" on its home page is surrounded by a blue ring. Last year you discovered "that Russian hackers have penetrated a sensitive computer network at the top-secret Navy intelligence center, according to a report in last week's Sunday Times of London" (2). Rayelan writes me an email with regard to her and Jack 'seeing God' as a blue ring (3): "One of our mutual colleagues has created a device .... computer assisted device that actually called in God. I saw him and felt him. He was blue... it looked like a donut ring of blue energy." (4) On searches for Jack Shulman aka John Schwartz (for one) Brother Blue were found in close proximity and (5) the recent Blue Rose posts which speculate: "If what was reported in the news is correct and the witnesses observed a pulsing blue light, then what destroyed the telescope was an extremely powerful pulsing Argon Ion laser that was based in a satellite, or a laser which emitted a final beam output in the blue region ...around 5000 angstroms. This need not be aliens but one of our weapon systems in the sky ....USA or Russian....not chinese....now the question why??????" and I have indication of a tagging of my home addy onto a Spawar URL (6).

(1) Email quote from an anon:

"Is this Russian?? And how do I translate it???" http://www.acc.ru/ http://www.acc.ru/work/enterprise.asp

(2) http://www.sdreader.com/ed/city/arch/SH080599.STM

Spies Among Us An engineer at the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command on Pacific Highway has discovered that Russian hackers have penetrated a sensitive computer network at the top-secret Navy intelligence center, according to a report in last week's Sunday Times of London. The paper says Spawar engineer Ron Broersma broke the case when he noticed that a computer print job was taking longer than usual to run. "To his amazement, monitoring tools showed thate file had been removed from the printing queue and transmitted to an Internet server in Moscow before being sent back to San Diego." Broersma told a private computer seminar last month that the electronic invasion "turned out to be a real tough problem for us," according to the Times. "It is not clear precisely what information was contained in the stolen document," the paper added. "Beyond its role in naval intelligence, Spawar is also responsible for providing electronic security systems for the Marine Corps and federal agencies. It is suspected that several other intrusions had gone undetected. Oleg Kalugin, a former head of Soviet counterintelligence and now a resident of Maryland, said such facilities were prime targets for Russian intelligence." The Times also claims that the Spawar penetration is just one in a series of successful Russian cyber attacks, dubbed Moonlight Maze, against the U.S. defense establishment. Whether coincidental or not, Spawar recently lost a government competition to develop the Navy's new intranet service, a $200 million voice, video, and data network.

(3)

">"Subject: From Rayelan
:Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:55:36 EST
:From: RUSSBACHER@aol.com
:To: prh@pw.usda.gov
:
:Phillip,
:
:I knkow Jack personally. There are times I think he is full of
:himself... but from what I have been able to check out through people
:who have known him for years... and have known me for the same lenght of
:time or longer... Jack is what he says he is.
:
:He is of Jewish descent... if that matters. Some people think he is
:German. He was the neighbor of one of the founders of IMB... Big Blue...
:the original big blue.
:
:He was accepted as a familoy member by this family. He is a computer
:genius on the level of Michael Riconoscuito and Bill Gates. I expect
:that whether he knows it or not, he probably ws subjected to some kind
:of tampering when he was a child.
:
:According to either Riconoscuito or Gunther [Russbacher], the photographic
:memory
:comes from a surgical operation performed on the back of the brain.. I
:don't know if it is the medulla or what. I just know it is in the back
:of the brain.
:
:The computer skills can also be enhanced dthrough manipulation of the
:brain through electrical stimulation and drugs.... not to mention mind
:control.
:
:In your email as well as what you posted... I missed the part that Rose
:contributed.
:
:IN other words... it is not clear who wrote what.
:
:IT is also not really clear what you are complaining about. There is a
:lot of really interesting information.... but I couldn't figure out why
:you are mad or upset at Jack.
:
:I had an amazing experience with him last August in Denver. We both saw
:God. I had never before that moment seen Jack humbled. God.... or "the
:Big Guy" as he called him... seemed to put Jack in his place.
:
:One of our mutual colleagues has created a device .... computer assisted
:device that actually called in God. I saw him and felt him. He was
:blue... it looked like a donut ring of blue energy.
:
:I don't know how HE appeared to Jack. I just know it left him completely
:speechless ... which I have never seen Jack before.
:
:Rayelan"

(4) You [Mr. Broersma] have also investigated Brother Blue and Jack Shulman. This was found while searching USENET for "Lan Lamphere" - sorry about the excess search info.

http://x31.deja.com/[ST_cam=search.yahoo.none.slot]/getdoc.xp?AN=320061104&CONTE XT=954947201.1459290131&hitnum=44

who is brother blue? --

CTS Network Services (CTS-DOM)

4444 Convoy Street, #300

San Diego, California 92111

USA

Domain Name: CTS.COM (WWW?)

Administrative Contact:

Blue, William (BB167) bblue@CTS.COM

619.637.3600

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:

Sherwin, Dan (DS813) hostmaster@CTS.COM

619-637-3637 (FAX) 619-637-3630

Record last updated on 20-Dec-96.

Record created on 19-Jan-87.

Database last updated on 16-Jan-98 04:10:59 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

nslookup host NS.CTS.COM 192.188.72.18

nslookup host NEWS.CTS.COM 192.188.72.21 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Datel Systems Incorporated (DATELSYS-DOM)

4444 Convoy St. #300

San Diego, CA 92111

US

Domain Name: DATELSYS.COM (WWW?)

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:

Blue, William (BB167) bblue@CTS.COM

619.637.3600

Record last updated on 08-Jan-97.

Record created on 27-Aug-96.

Database last updated on 16-Jan-98 04:10:59 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

nslookup host NS.DATEL.COM 199.201.129.97

nslookup host NS.CTS.COM 192.188.72.18 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Datel Systems Incorporated (NET-DATEL-NET)

4444 Convoy Street #300

San Diego, CA 92111

Netname: DATEL-NET Netnumber: 199.201.129.0

Coordinator:

Davis, Morgan (MD92) webmaster@CTS.COM

619-637-3637

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS.DATEL.COM 199.201.129.97

NS.CTS.COM 192.188.72.18

NCTAMSEP.NAVY.MIL 138.183.254.2

Record last updated on 18-May-94.

Database last updated on 16-Jan-98 04:10:59 EDT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

NCTC (NET-CISCO-BLOCK29)

NAVTASC

Building 31

Redlind Drive

Cheltanhem, MD 20397

Netname: CISCO-BLOCK29 Netnumber: 138.183.0.0

Coordinator:

Dianni, Barnaby (BD3026) N634@NCTAMSPAC.NAVY.MIL

(808) 653-1000

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS1.NCTAMSPAC.NAVY.MIL 138.183.95.34

PACFW.CPF.NAVY.MIL 199.124.15.34 (see below)

Record last updated on 04-Nov-97.

Database last updated on 16-Jan-98 04:10:59 EDT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Commander-In-Chief, Pacific Fleet (NETBLK-CPF-LAN)

Commander-In-Chief

Pacific Fleet

250 Makalapa Drive

Pearl Harbor, HI 96860-7000

Netname: NETBLK-CPF-LAN Netblock: 199.124.8.0 - 199.124.15.0

Coordinator:

Kuriyama, Kent (KK51) kent@LONO.NOSC.MIL

(808) 471-4125

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

PACFW.CPF.NAVY.MIL 199.124.15.34

TROUT.NOSC.MIL 128.49.16.7 (see below)

Record last updated on 15-Sep-95.

Database last updated on 16-Jan-98 04:10:59 EDT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Naval Ocean Systems Center (NET-NOSC-ETHER)

San Diego, CA 92152-5000

Netname: NOSC-ETHER Netnumber: 128.49.0.0

Coordinator:

Broersma, Ronald L. (RLB3) ron@NOSC.MIL

(619) 553-2293 (DSN) 553-2293

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

TROUT.NOSC.MIL 128.49.16.7

TRANTOR.UMD.EDU 128.8.10.14 (see below)

MANTA.NOSC.MIL 128.49.4.37

Record last updated on 03-Jan-91.

Database last updated on 16-Jan-98 04:10:59 EDT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

University of Maryland (NET-UMDNET)

Network Operations Center

Bldg 224, Room 1301

College Park, MD 20742

Netname: UMDNET Netnumber: 128.8.0.0

Coordinator:

Sneeringer, Gerry (GS307) sneeri@NI.UMD.EDU

(301) 405-2996

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NOC.UMD.EDU 128.8.5.2

NS1.UMD.EDU 128.8.74.2

NS2.UMD.EDU 128.8.76.2

MX.NSI.NASA.GOV 128.102.18.31 Record last updated on 21-Jan-96.

Database last updated on 16-Jan-98 04:10:59 EDT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

NASA Ames Research Center (NET-AMES-NET)

Mail Stop 233-10

Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000

Netname: AMES-NET Netnumber: 128.102.0.0

Coordinator:

Cmaylo, Bohdan K (BKC2) bcmaylo@MAIL.ARC.NASA.GOV

650-604-4414

Alternate Contact:

Operations, Nsi Network (NNO2) noc@NSIPO.NASA.GOV

(800) 424-9920 (415) 604-0063 (FAX) (415) 604-0063

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS.ARC.NASA.GOV 128.102.16.2

MX.NSI.NASA.GOV 128.102.18.31

Record last updated on 08-May-96.

Database last updated on 16-Jan-98 04:10:59 EDT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Crusoe Communications (CRUSOE-DOM)

387 Passaic Ave

Fairfield, NJ 07004

Domain Name: CRUSOE.NET (WWW?)

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:

De Groot, Mark (MD651) degroot@CRUSOE.NET

201-882-1022 Billing Contact:

Tranter, Robert (RT390) tranter@CRUSOE.NET

201.808.2773 (FAX) 201.808.1066

Record last updated on 07-Oct-96.

Record created on 13-Oct-95.

Database last updated on 17-Jan-98 04:13:10 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

nslookup host FRIDAY.CRUSOE.NET 206.136.64.11

nslookup host CRUSOE.CRUSOE.NET 206.136.64.10

nslookup host AUTH00.NS.UU.NET 198.6.1.65

nslookup host AUTH01.NS.UU.NET 198.6.1.81

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Whois degroot@CRUSOE.NET?

De Groot, Mark (MD651) degroot@CRUSOE.NET 201-882-1022 DeGroot, Barry (BD2183) degroot@USAOR.NET 412.665.2700 Freimark, Lewis (LF410) degroot@CRUSOE.NET (201) 227-7575 Jurewicz, Alan (AG588) degroot@CRUSOE.NET 908-474-9400 Peabody, Cece (CP720) degroot@CRUSOE.NET (201) 812-6536 Schwarz, Joel (JS2816) degroot@CRUSOE.NET 2014051919 Terry, Troy (TT577) degroot@CRUSOE.NET 2016965085

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------

Whois Robert Trantor?

Tranter, Robert (RT1602) tranter@CROSOE.NET

Florida's Internet Providing Services, Inc.

507 Royal Palm Beach Blvd

Royal Palm Beach, FL 33411

908 972 6171

Tranter, Robert (RT390) tranter@CRUSOE.NET

Crusoe Communications, Inc. Cyborg Technology

378 Passaic Avenue

Fairfield, NJ 07004

973-882-1022 (FAX) 973.808.1066

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------

Web Creations (WEBCREATIONS-DOM)

387 Passaic Ave.

Fairfield, NJ 07004

US

Domain Name: WEBCREATIONS.COM (WWW?)

Administrative Contact:

Rudd, Stephen (SR246) steve@WEBCREATIONS.COM

201-808-5585 (FAX) 201-808-5584

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:

Domain Services (AWC2-ORG) hostmaster@AWC.NET

201-808-5585

Fax 201-808-5584

Record last updated on 11-Jul-97.

Record created on 05-May-95.

Database last updated on 17-Jan-98 04:13:10 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

nslookup host NS2.AWC.NET 205.184.109.9

nslookup host NS1.AWC.NET 209.19.30.9

nslookup host NS1.NOC.NETCOM.NET 204.31.1.1

nslookup host NS2.NOC.NETCOM.NET 199.183.9.2 ------------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Web Creations (BROTHERBLUE-DOM)

387 Passaic Ave

Fairfield, NJ 07004

us

Domain Name: BROTHERBLUE.ORG (WWW?)

Administrative Contact:

Blue, Brother (BB4081) density4@CTS.COM

201-808-5585 (FAX) 201-808-5584

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:

Domain Services (AWC2-ORG) hostmaster@AWC.NET

201-808-5585

Fax 201-808-5584

Billing Contact:

Blue, Brother (BB4081) density4@CTS.COM

201-808-5585 (FAX) 201-808-5584

Record last updated on 11-Jul-97.

Record created on 28-Mar-97.

Database last updated on 17-Jan-98 04:13:10 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

nslookup host NS2.AWC.NET 205.184.109.9

nslookup host NS1.AWC.NET 209.19.30.9

nslookup host NS1.NOC.NETCOM.NET 204.31.1.1

---------------------

whois 204.31.1.1

NETCOM On-Line Communication Services, Inc. (NET-NOC-NET)

3031 Tisch Way, Lobby Level

San Jose, CA 95128

Netname: NOC-NET Netnumber: 204.31.1.0

Coordinator:

NETCOM Hostmaster (NETCOM-HM) hostmaster@NOC.NETCOM.NET

888-698-HELP

Fax- -408-881-3336

Record last updated on 24-Apr-96.

Database last updated on 17-Jan-98 04:13:10 EDT.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -

whois acsa@ix.netcom.com ?

Schwartz, John (JS6037) acsa@IX.NETCOM.COM

ACSA

6 Commerce Dr.

Cranford, NJ 07016

908-272-3330 (FAX) 908-272-6297

The same email address used by Ed Wang, Bob Wolf to threaten and harrass Lan Lamphere at Nexxus.

see: http://www.nexxus.org

And "ufotruth" also used an ix.netcom.com email addressto promote ACC.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -

domains registered to Jack Shulman a.k.a. John Schwartz, a.k.a. Daniel Grossman who all used the nicolai-tesla@msn.com and 72662.13@compuserve.com email addresses seen widely on the following ACC web sites:

american-computer.com acsa2000.net acsa.net kasparov.com ticorporation.com accpc.com compamerica.com PCMAKER.COM byAmerican.com process-server.net servepapers.com

According to Internic, the above "organizations" are all located at 6 Commerce Drive, Cranford, NJ 07016 but the web pages all have the same IP address 206.214.38.13.

whois 206.214.38.13

NETCOM On-Line Communication Services, Inc. (NET-NOC-NET)

3031 Tisch Way, Lobby Level

San Jose, CA 95128

Netname: NOC-NET Netnumber: 204.31.1.0

Coordinator:

NETCOM Hostmaster (NETCOM-HM) hostmaster@NOC.NETCOM.NET

888-698-HELP

Fax- -408-881-3336

Record last updated on 24-Apr-96.

Database last updated on 17-Jan-98 04:13:10 EDT.

(5) Blue Rose Posts:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/members/cgi-bin/config.cgi?read=2624

Messages in This Thread

* Rand-Wilson Telescope (views: 126)

BlueRose -- Friday, 14 April 2000, at 11:53 a.m.

o Re: Rand-Wilson Telescope (views: 38)

STARDUSTER -- Saturday, 15 April 2000, at 2:52 p.m.

o Answer: What Destroyed theTelescope (views: 66)

vince -- Saturday, 15 April 2000, at 4:32 a.m.

+ A Question of Verification (views: 48)

BlueRose -- Saturday, 15 April 2000, at 12:24 p.m.

o BLUEBEAM???? (views: 114)

Agent 777 -- Friday, 14 April 2000, at 4:15 p.m.

(a)

RMNews Agent's Forum Rand-Wilson Telescope Posted By: BlueRose Date: Friday, 14 April 2000, at 11:53 a.m.

Can anyone verify that this story is true? I wonder about the "spin" on this article, that it's believed to be "space aliens", rather than a laser beam, the kind used not long ago by the U.S. military on a ship out at sea, a beam sent to an embassy somewhere in Africa (if I remember correctly) awhile back because it was believed Ben Laden was hiding out there.

Here's the story:

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/stories/1467.html SPACE ALIENS

DESTROYED RADIO TELESCOPE

" . . . because they didn't want us eavesdropping on them, say scientists!

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa -- In a devastating setback to the international search for extraterrestrial life, a giant radio telescope being used to probe the stars has been destroyed -- and some scientists fear that aliens may be responsible for the mysterious mishap!

At 2:13 a.m. on March 18, what witnesses described as a "pulsating blue beam" streaked out of the sky and slammed into the 250-foot Rand-Wilson telescope near Johannesburg, lighting up the facility and a quarter-mile area surrounding it. At daybreak, stunned researchers found that the multimillion-dollar telescope had been reduced to a tangle of scorched and twisted metal.

"It looked as if it had taken a direct hit from a category five hurricane, but the weather that night was completely tranquil," chief astronomer Dr. Nigel Van Hecht said in a phone interview.

"We are entirely at a loss as to what could have caused this. The damage is certainly not consistent with any known natural phenomenon, such as lightning.

"We have concluded that it is the result of sabotage and because of the uncanny nature of the weapon, we are strongly leaning toward the theory that the attackers were non-terrestrial."

The South Africa-based telescope, one of the world's largest, was a key element in the international scientific endeavor known as the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, or SETI.

Scientists use radio telescopes -- essentially giant antennas -- to "listen" for radio waves coming from outer space.

While some radio waves are natural, the theory is that waves within certain frequencies or manifesting unusual patterns could only be broadcasts from an alien civilization.

The program has been widely hailed as a more prudent and cost-effective means of alien- hunting than manned space exploration. And the powerful Rand-Wilson telescope, able to listen in on about 6,000 stars within 400 light-years of our solar system, was considered a uniquely vital tool.

But Dr. Van Hecht and his colleagues now fear the approach may have backfired.

"It's conceivable that the aliens don't like us eavesdropping on them -- and that this was their crystal-clear way of telling us to cut it out," the astronomer said. "Certainly, they may have secrets they don't want us listening in on."

Although researchers around the world will continue to use other radio telescopes to scan the cosmos for signs of intelligence, the Rand-Wilson telescope is history.

"The damage is irreparable," Dr. Van Hecht said. "This is a real tragedy for science."

(b) RMNews Agent's Forum Re: Rand-Wilson Telescope Posted By: STARDUSTER Date: Saturday, 15 April 2000, at 2:52 p.m. In Response To: Rand-Wilson Telescope (BlueRose)

"BLUEROSE, Doesn't the word RAND give it all away?-STARDUSTER"

(c) RMNews Agent's Forum Answer: What Destroyed theTelescope Posted By: vince Date: Saturday, 15 April 2000, at 4:32 a.m. In Response To: Rand-Wilson Telescope (BlueRose)

"If what was reported in the news is correct and the witnesses observed a pulsing blue light, then what destroyed the telescope was an extremely powerful pulsing Argon Ion laser that was based in a satellite, or a laser which emitted a final beam output in the blue region ...around 5000 angstroms. This need not be aliens but one of our weapon systems in the sky ....USA or Russian....not chinese....now the question why??????"

(d) RMNews Agent's Forum A Question of Verification Posted By: BlueRose Date: Saturday, 15 April 2000, at 12:24 p.m. In Response To: Answer: What Destroyed theTelescope (vince)

While the slant of the Weekly World News story was extremely suspect to me (what reputable astronomer would go off and say it was aliens?), I wonder if any part of the WWN story can be corroborated?

Additionally, on another email list, it was pointed out that the website for WWN is set up to be a joke, along the lines of Mad Magazine and not meant to be taken seriously. I don't know whathis makes WWN Online, but I have to admit they do manage to put together some bizarre stories.

Nevertheless, I guess I will have to do a search for the Rand-Wilson observatory if they have a web site, or try to find any corroborating stories that the telescope was in fact destroyed.

BlueRose

(e) RMNews Agent's Forum BLUEBEAM???? Posted By: Agent 777 Date: Friday, 14 April 2000, at 4:15 p.m. In Response To: Rand-Wilson Telescope (BlueRose)

Hello:

YES that story is VERY interesting. Sometimes I do think theWeekly World News is a vehicle to "float trial balloons" in public opinion.

In fact I believe that it was the First Place to publish the Face On Mars photo. I could be wrong in this but it was the firstplace that I saw it.

What I find MOST interesting here is the use of the WORDS "blue beam."

As you may recall there is a project called Blue Beam that is allegedly a worldwide holographic projection system. Word has it that this system is to be used to project worldwide visions of the "messiah" OR an alien invasion!

More info on Project Bluebeam can be found here:

http://surfingtheapocalypse.homepage.com/conspire2.html#bluebeam

Hmmmm

Any other thoughts??

SURFING THE APOCALYPSE

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com

(6) My home addy "zowie" was found linked with a Spawar URL: http://zowie.metnet.navy.mil/~spawar/JMV-TNG/XML/OMF.dtd

Philip "Rick" Henika



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Articles In This Thread

Rand-Wilson Telescope
BlueRose -- Friday, 14-Apr-2000 12:53:56
BLUEBEAM????
Agent 777 -- Friday, 14-Apr-2000 17:15:24
Answer: What Destroyed theTelescope
vince -- Saturday, 15-Apr-2000 05:32:38
A Question of Verification
BlueRose -- Saturday, 15-Apr-2000 13:24:58
Re: Rand-Wilson Telescope
STARDUSTER -- Saturday, 15-Apr-2000 15:52:05
"Blue Rose" - Fatima & Blue Rings
Rick (formerly Philip) -- Wednesday, 26-Apr-2000 14:11:36
Rayelan - Help Me Out Here
Rick -- Wednesday, 26-Apr-2000 15:40:06
ANYBODY!!!
Rick -- Wednesday, 26-Apr-2000 16:01:01
OK
Rick -- Wednesday, 26-Apr-2000 16:57:08
Fatima & Blue Rings
BlueRose -- Thursday, 27-Apr-2000 13:15:49
Fatima and Brother Blue???
Rick -- Thursday, 27-Apr-2000 16:04:59

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