Hi: Thanks for posting, I appreciate your response as it gives me a chance to do some follow-up. I just presented what Zbig said, and then tried to follow the stated logic to some extent. There were a number of things I did not mention because of lack of time and space, but I will list some items here.
Note also that just because I post an article or interview doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with it. The hope is always that someone out there who has missing pieces of the puzzle will step forward and either confirm, deny, or add to what we find.
1. The real Brzezinski historically was in with the F1 Rothschild-oriented Bolsheviks while he was Nat'l Sec. Adviser to Jimmy Carter during the late 1970's.
2. Somewhere during 1979 he was reportedly replaced with a Russian double (yeah, I know nobody believes this goes on), nevertheless, Zbig-watchers of the time noticed his statements shifted from an anti-Soviet, anti-SALT II point of view toward a more accommodating position with the Soviets. Is Zbig a mouthpiece nowadays for the Rothschilds or for the anti-Rothschild faction of the Soviets? Who knows? Either way the purpose seems to be to confuse. Notice that neither side really comes right out and lays out what their secret plans are. We pore through the released material, shake it up a good bit, and see which pieces seem to fit, and which don't. Yeah, I agree, Zbig's comparison of the neocons was a bit easy. :-)
3. On Netanyahu adding to the confusion: Bibi really sorta had to come out in favor of the demonstrators. Whether A-jad is fully or partly a Mossad op or not, can you imagine the world reaction if Bibi came out and said he was all for A-jad? Bibi may as well come out and say he is all for Hitler.
4. I probably should have clarified the "thinking out loud" thing about maybe there are F1 and F2 forces on BOTH sides of the Iran crisis. I was more or less referring to the infiltration and sabatoge that both sides might be expected to do to each other. Whether such is happening, I don't know. Iran is on Russia's doorstep, so I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't some Russian intel activity going on, as Tonzal has mentioned. Hopefully folks with an ear to the door of the Iran situation will come forward with truthful stories. But it is possible they cannot, at least not right now, lest they might compromise F2 plans. This is always a possibility.
5. Is there really a tilt to the West going on in Iran? Are Iranians really supposedly turning against A-jad? Are the protests being built up, manipulated, and exaggerated? Did A-jad really win the election? Are any of the images real or have they been staged or even doctored with some judicious computer imagery? Is A-jad even the real target? Could part of this crisis be in order to partly or fully discredit the Iranian clerics? Or is this just Phase 1 of a multifaceted plan? A LOT of questions, and unfortunately few concrete answers in the face of probably highly-slanted or otherwise falsified news reports.
6. It is sad that we have to puzzle through the limited and precensored material and speculate as to whether A, B, or C is happening, while we have a corporate news media which is paid handsomely to lie to us each and every day. It would be nice to see this situation somehow corrected.
But thanks again for your thoughts and questions because they are needed.
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: What if I say
: the neo-cons are not the one's
: beaking off
: and Z is uplifting Obama
: not surprising
: both are capable of
: stirring the brew
: what bothers me about Iran
: is the pre-planned program news
: and the reporters that keep putting
: the same pictures up and beatin' it
: to death
: with what's at stake
: someone might be making it look like
: the neo-cons are involved
: someone wants this Iran issue
: milked to death
: cnn is fixated on it
: they sometimes, do not breath
: between sentences
: and that ain't usually
: neo-con style
: just thoughts
: no harm
: Cathy
: just thought