I understand this post is second hand from Alice, but I will respond as if I am speaking to Alice.
Well, Alice, I don't think I'm going to fall down one of your rabbit holes in an "Alice in Wonderland" reality.
But you do have me wondering.
It is possible I just missed something, but this is how I see it.
It seems you are saying that Rayelan's ex-husband, Gunther, was a Nazi like Gehlen.
How you make this connection I do not know, especially since he was a child.
It is my understanding that the Canais Group tried to stop the insanity known as Hitler.
I have never seen the "Gehlen/Canais group" you refer to.
Gehlen was brought here as part of The Paperclip Project.
The goal of this group was totally different from the Canais Group that tried to stop the insanity known as Hitler.
So, thank you for providing the wonderful references about Gehlen. It is important to know he was part of the OSS formed by Dulles that became the CIA, but I do not see how the references are appropriate here.
Why the misrepresentation?
So, references, please.
How do you come up with this "Gehlen/Canais Group"?
I really want to know.
And yes, who else but the author of the book "Diana, Queen of Heaven" would have something to do with a website of that name!
Perhaps you are simply confused.
I have had the privilege to hear Rayelan speak on this topic.
It was a hallmark experience of my life.
My understanding of the bottomline is this:
There were many powerful forces associated with Diana, some to do with bloodlines and tradition.
Those who wish to manipulate and subvert tried to use her in various ways, including after her death.
Religion can be a powerful controller of the masses.
This has been utilized through the ages.
Now, combine that with some covert technology like beamed holography (Project BlueBeam) and imagine how people could be manipulated!
If you somehow think that Rayelan was promoting Diana the Princess who died, as a goddess, in my opinion you are sadly mistaken.
Of course I am taking a bit of a risk speaking for someone else, but I'm happy to stand corrected.
: **Disclaimer** I did not write this. This comes from Alice and
: is Alice's opinion. I believe this deserves a look. Read
: for yourselves.
: ==============================
: Food for thought for all the mole hunters out there. As the
: boards go up in flames around us, ya better know who you
: are sleeping with. Like daddy used to say: Ya lie with dogs
: boy, ya get fleas!
: [begin inserted text]
: (The Raven)
: My mother's hand shook me awake. I opened my eyes. "Is it
: time?" I asked. My mother nodded. Behind her I could
: see my grandfather wiping tears from his eyes. We had know
: for weeks that the call would come. I didn't fully
: understand why I had to leave my home. I knew it had
: something to do with losing the war, but I was only twelve
: years old, and the war had been over for ten years. I
: didn't understand why I had to leave Austria.
: Grandfather drove us to the airport and walked with us across
: the tarmac to the waiting plane. There were others gathered
: there that night. Eighteen of us altogether. We were all
: being sent into exile. It wasn't until years later that I
: understood that the Allies had ordered the highest ranking
: members of the Austrian royal family to be sent out of the
: country. In exchange for our exile, Austria would be
: allowed to become a sovereign country once again.
: My Grandfather on my father's side joined us at the airport.
: He took from his coat a small gold lion that was the symbol
: of our family. My grandfather was the Lion of Salzburg, and
: I knew that someday I would become the Lion. As he pinned
: the small gold lion to my coat he said, "You come from
: an old and noble family. Don't ever forget who you are. You
: are the Baron von Russbach. Wear your name proudly."
: My grandfather held me for a long time, and then my other
: grandfather hugged me. Finally my mother pulled me away and
: we boarded the plane. There were others on the plane that I
: had met at family gatherings. Young men and women who I
: recognized, but didn't know very well.
: "Where are we going?" I asked my mother.
: "We are going to a place called Oklahoma. There is a man
: there that I will marry. He is a good man."
: "But what about my father?" I asked. "You are
: still married to my father."
: "Your father is officially dead." Mother told me.
: "No he isn't. You know he isn't dead." I was ready
: to fight.
: "I know he isn't dead, and you know he isn't dead. But if
: we want him to stay alive, we have to pretend he is dead.
: How many times do you have to be told these things." I
: could tell that mother was upset. At the time I didn't
: realize how much she loved my father. I knew their marriage
: had been arranged by their father's. I knew that the house
: of Russbach and the house of Esterhaszy needed to join and
: produce an heir. I was that heir. For the longest time I
: thought that my mother was indifferent to my father. Then I
: realized that she only acted that way because the pain of
: losing him while he was still alive was too much for her to
: handle.
: First she lost her husband, then she lost her country, her
: property, her money, her title, her position, and finally
: the victors who had won the war and taken everything she
: had, would take the last thing she loved....her son...me.
: I was born the first of July, 1942 in Salzburg, Austria. On my
: birth certificate, I am, Gunther Karl, Baron von Russbach,
: Count von Esterhazy. On my father's side I am descended
: from the Baron who captured Richard the Lionhearted and
: held him for ransom. On my mother's side I am descended
: from Hungarian royalty. The Esterhaszy's had been advisors
: to the Emperors of Austria for generations. The marriage
: between my mother and father had been arranged to cement
: family interests.
: [/end inserted text]
: Last time I checked a rothschild ruled salzburg......could be
: wrong. Sorry for the trip down memory lane folks, but a
: little background is needed. Back to the raven.....
: [begin inserted text]
: My Godfather was Ernst Kaltenbrunner, the head of Austrian
: Intelligence during WWII. Records of this are kept in the
: family church in Salzburg. My family was part of the Gehlen
: group which was also called the Canaris group.
: I began learning the simple aspect of the craft when I was old
: enough to follow orders. After the war, several Austrian
: families had to leave Austria in order to avoid
: prosecution. Most of these families had belonged to the
: Gehlen/Canaris group.
: Eighteen members of my family were forced into exile. Moving
: to the United States, not speaking any English, I had to
: learn to be one hundred per cent American within two years.
: A man I had known as a child in Austria appeared and took
: me under his wing. At that time I had a heavy German accent
: and the children in Oklahoma were very cruel. This man
: taught me how to lose the accent and speak just like an
: American. He had also lost his accent. This man became my
: new Godfather. He became responsible for my training.
: [/end inserted text]
: Is it me or does this royal bloodline bullsh*t ring of
: hypocrisy? Folks this is more of the white knight, cowboys
: in white hats; we are here to save you bullsh*t! Do not be
: fooled by it. Polarities; the light side is no better than
: the dark side........ just different! Both are controlled
: by the same misguided f*cks! Remember dark cannot exist
: without the light. Both are ALLOWED to exist! It's called
: BALANCE. All is not what it seems. Shells inside of shells
: inside of shells........hummmmmm
: For more info on these "groups" check out the below
: links. Decide for yourself what is! Do your own thinking.
: Discern things for yourself. Look to the heart, the heart
: cannot lie! Understand that if one is to decide for
: themselves they must be allowed access to all available
: information. I. E..........no censorship! Regardless of
: what one might think about said
: information.........example: john galt or whatever the f*ck
: his name is........:) Let the people decide what they want
: to adhere to.........not the thought police. If it gets to
: damn hot...so be it! If ya can't run with the big
: dogs.........stay on the f*cking porch. Enjoy the
: read........wink, wink, nudge,nudge.....say no more, say no
: more.
: http://www.nara.gov/iwg/press/ciarecs.html
:
: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/DiscreetSilence_B_CS.html
: http://www.carpenoctem.tv/cons/german.html
:
: http://www.ifs.tuwien.ac.at/~andi/somlib/data/time60/files/T383.txt
: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/11-30-45.htm
: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/07-05-46.htm
: [begin inserted text]
: There may even be a more secretive organization behind
: Russbacher's activities. As the interview concludes, he
: shows off a the wide gold band he wears on one finger.
: There are enigmatic symbols inscribed on the ring.
: "The pyramid is also the symbol for delta,"
: Russbacher cryptically explains. Other symbols, shaped like
: asterisks, represent the eight points of the earth, he
: says. "I'm just telling you very few people wear this
: ring. "My wife has one, I have one. All other married
: couples wear them. They're handmade. It signifies the
: ability to strike as a unit for the sake of humanity,"
: says Russbacher. "It's a very long story."
: [/end inserted text]
: Who or what is the secret organization afore mentioned? And
: what of those rings, bat fans? Could it be the
: gehlen/canaris group? Maybe, but methinks it runs deeper
: than that. Like back through the crusades and knights
: templar. Does the thule society or vril society RING a
: bell? No.........how about... albert pike? Nice fellow that
: one. Real piece of dog sh*t!
: [begin inserted text]
: Albert Pike said many things in preparation for the
: construction of the New World Order. This plan was outlined
: in graphic detail by Albert Pike, the Sovereign Grand
: Commander of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of
: Freemasonry and the top Illuminist in America. In a letter
: to Guisseppe Mazzini dated August 15, 1871. Pike stated
: that the first world war was to be fomented in order to
: destroy Czarist Russia - and to place that vast land under
: the direct control of Illuminati agents. Russia was then to
: be used as a 'bogey man' to further the aims of the
: Illuminati worldwide.
: World War II was to be fomented through manipulation of the
: differences that existed between the German Nationalists
: and the Political Zionists. This was to result in an
: expansion of Russian influence and the establishment of a
: state of Israel in Palestine.
: The Third World War was planned to result form the differences
: stirred up by Illuminati agents between the Zionists and
: the Arabs. The conflict was planned to spread worldwide.
: The llluminati, said the letter, planned to "unleash
: the Nihilists and Atheists" and "provoke a
: formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will
: show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism,
: origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then
: everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves
: against the world minority of revolutionaries, will
: exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the
: multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic
: spirits will from that moment be without compass
: [direction], anxious for an ideal, but without knowing
: where to render its adoration, will receive the true light
: through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of
: Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a
: manifestation which will result from the general
: reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of
: Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated
: at the same time."
: [/end inserted text]
: Hey bat fans, guess who owns and operates this site:
: http://www.dianaqueenofheaven.com
: Anybody see the writing on the wall? All is not what it seems.
: There are strangers among us!
: I AM AS YOU ARE................alice