I recall hearing the Bin Laden = Tim Osman story several years ago coming from former FBI SAC turned PI and whistleblower, Ted Gunderson. Gunderson claimed to have been present at a meeting where stinger missile sales were being arranged, with Obama there under the supposed CIA alias of Osman. If you Google Gunderson Osama Osman you may find more on this.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gunderson+osama+osman&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
JediShaman
: For years now many researchers and investigators have believed
: a story leaked by government agents about Osama bin Laden
: visiting the Cabazon Indian Reservation under his CIA alias
: Tim Osman.
: WHEN OSAMA WAS CIA AGENT TIM OSMAN & OTHER
: "PROMIS"ES
: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/read/33828
: The following is from an investigator and researcher whose
: work is flawless. If this person says there is NO
: information stating Osama bin Laden ever used the CIA alias
: of Tim Osman... then I tend to believe that the Tim Osman
: story is probably only in the imagination of the man who
: wrote the story.
: Here is the note from my VERY informed reader!!
:
: Regarding the story "WHEN OSAMA WAS CIA AGENT TIM OSMAN
: & OTHER "PROMIS"ES", I have the original
: document on Tim Osman, and if Tim was really Osama Bin
: Laden it would certainly have been included in that
: document, and it's not. Therefore I have to discard that
: theory until such time as someone proves it's true.
: Regarding PROMIS being connected to 911, that is entirely
: feasible, because over the years I have found a number of
: leads that indicate PROMIS was used by several factions
: that have never been exposed to this day.
: A couple of those factions was a notorious organized crime
: family using PROMIS for money laundering, and the Cali
: Cartel using it for the same purposes. (Long story). Even
: the NSA's current spy software originated from PROMIS, I
: believe.
: Check out the New York Times article below entitled "Vast
: Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries." This is
: an interesting parallel to the original pirating of a
: modified version of PROMIS, and possibly even a consequence
: of it.
: Basically PROMIS is everywhere now, as PROMIS was the
: forerunner of Artificial Intelligence , as well as the
: forerunner of all subsequent "tracking" programs
: that morphed into the world's current government and spy
: computer networks. Tracking PROMIS today is like trying to
: find the first bee that started a hive. LOL.
: You can review Bill Hamilton's current website and see he's
: still developing case management software!!! He could give
: you an EARFUL on where PROMIS ended up. You might want to
: interview him ---
: Bill Hamilton's current website: http://www.inslawinc.com/
: Good background on the Inslaw - PROMIS case:
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INSLAW
:
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: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/technology/29spy.html
: March 29, 2009
: Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries
: By JOHN MARKOFF
:
: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/john_markoff/index.html?inline=nyt-per
: >]
: New York Times
: TORONTO - A vast electronic spying operation has infiltrated
: computers and has stolen documents from hundreds of
: government and private offices around the world, including
: those of the Dalai Lama
:
: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/_dalai_lama/index.html?inline=nyt-per
: , Canadian researchers have concluded.
: In a report to be issued this weekend, the researchers said
: http://www.infowar-monitor.net/ghostnet/ that the system
: was being controlled from computers based almost
: exclusively in China
: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/china/index.html?inline=nyt-geo
: , but that they could not say conclusively that the Chinese
: government was involved.
: The researchers, who are based at the Munk Center for
: International Studies
: http://webapp.mcis.utoronto.ca/ at the University of
: Toronto, had been asked by the office of the Dalai Lama,
: the exiled Tibetan leader whom China regularly denounces,
: to examine its computers for signs of malicious software,
: or malware.
: Their sleuthing opened a window into a broader operation that,
: in less than two years, has infiltrated at least 1,295
: computers in 103 countries, including many belonging to
: embassies, foreign ministries and other government offices,
: as well as the Dalai Lama's Tibetan exile centers in India,
: Brussels, London and New York.
: The researchers, who have a record of detecting computer
: espionage, said they believed that in addition to the
: spying on the Dalai Lama, the system, which they called
: GhostNet, was focused on the governments of South Asian and
: Southeast Asian countries.
: snip
:
: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/north_atlantic_treaty_organization/index.html?inline=nyt-org
: computer was monitored by the spies for half a day and
: computers of the Indian Embassy in Washington were
: infiltrated.
: snip
: The electronic spy game has had at least some real-world
: impact, they said. For example, they said, after an e-mail
: invitation was sent by the Dalai Lama's office to a foreign
: diplomat, the Chinese government made a call to the
: diplomat discouraging a visit. And a woman working for a
: group making Internet contacts between Tibetan exiles and
: Chinese citizens was stopped by Chinese intelligence
: officers on her way back to Tibet, shown transcripts of her
: online conversations and warned to stop her political
: activities.
: The Toronto researchers said they had notified international
: law enforcement agencies of the spying operation, which in
: their view exposed basic shortcomings in the legal
: structure of cyberspace. The F.B.I.
:
: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_bureau_of_investigation/index.html?inline=nyt-org
: declined to comment on the operation.
: snip
: “We're a bit more careful about it, knowing the nuance of what
: happens in the subterranean realms,” said Ronald J.
: Deibert, a member of the research group and an associate
: professor of political science at Munk. “This could well be
: the C.I.A.
: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/central_intelligence_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org
: > or the Russians. It's a murky realm that we 're
: lifting the lid on.”
: A spokesman for the Chinese Consulate in New York dismissed
: the idea that China was involved. “These are old stories
: and they are nonsense,” the spokesman, Wenqi Gao, said.
: “The Chinese government is opposed to and strictly forbids
: any cybercrime.”
: The Toronto researchers, who allowed a reporter for The New
: York Times to review the spies' digital tracks, are
: publishing their findings in Information Warfare Monitor,
: an online publication associated with the Munk Center.
: At the same time, two computer researchers at Cambridge
: University
: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/cambridge_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org
: > in Britain who worked on the part of the investigation
: related to the Tibetans, are releasing an independent
: report
: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/techreports/UCAM-CL-TR-746.html
: >.
: They do fault China, and they warned that other hackers could
: adopt the tactics used in the malware operation.
: snip
: Early this month, Mr. Villeneuve noticed an odd string of 22
: characters embedded in files created by the malicious
: software and searched for it with Google
:
: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/google_inc/index.html?inline=nyt-org
: .
: It led him to a group of computers on Hainan Island, off
: China, and to a Web site that would prove to be critically
: important.
: In a puzzling security lapse, the Web page that Mr. Villeneuve
: found was not protected by a password, while much of the
: rest of the system uses encryption.
: Mr. Villeneuve and his colleagues figured out how the
: operation worked by commanding it to infect a system in
: their computer lab in Toronto. On March 12, the spies took
: their own bait. Mr. Villeneuve watched a brief series of
: commands flicker on his computer screen as someone -
: presumably in China - rummaged through the files. Finding
: nothing of interest, the intruder soon disappeared.
: Through trial and error, the researchers learned to use the
: system's Chinese-language “dashboard” - a control panel
: reachable with a standard Web browser - by which one could
: manipulate the more than 1,200 computers worldwide that had
: by then been infected.
: ---end of quote---
: The NY Times Story is archived at this PermaLink:
: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/technology/29spy.html
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