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One time I was flying through the clouds on an airplane. The cloud was so dense that I could barely see the wings from the plane window. I estimated that the cloud droplet concentration must be at least in the tens of thousands per cc. That means that the CCN (Cloud Condensation Nuclei) concentration is also that (each droplet condenses on one CCN).
I took out my portable Geiger counter and counted the ionizing radiation at the height of the plane (say, 30,000 ft). The counter was busy but I could hear the individual counts. Considering that the Geiger window is a fraction of a square cm, it is easy to estimate that the ionizing radiation count is much les than the CCN count (even taking into account the shielding from the plane).
CCN particles are everywhere. Over deserts as dry particles and in clouds as droplets. They are mostly salts from the ocean.
This experience teaches me that the cosmic ray density is nowhere near that of the unbiguitous CCNs.
So, even though the theory is elegant, I was not surprised to hear that follow up measurements failed to correlate cosmic ray intensity with cloud coverage.
The cosmic ray people are bona fide scientists who discovered what could be an elegant solution to the global warming problem.
Had they obtained better correlation I am sure that more scientist would join in. I would, too. So I don't think that there is some prejudice going on, except the typical scramble for funding on all sides.
Fluxon
: Although I have not much time left, let me join you on THIS!
:
: working for the Austrian government doing carbon
: accounting.
: It should be "Australian" - as I haven't seen any
: Kangoroos in Austria, except in zoos...
: ;)
: Regarding yor additional points I only want to pick out your
: latest:
: #4 WAS a sensation a few years back, but
: had Dave Evans follow
: Yes, because it would have turned out to be unfavourable for
: the "ZOO-TWO"(CO2) agenda. The theory was state
: of art after the year 2000 but disappeared very quickly
: from the public. Here's a rather good piece on that...
: Influence of Cosmic Rays on Earth's Climate
: ...and...
:
Cosmic rays blamed for global warming
: By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent, Sunday Telegraph
: Last Updated: 1:08am GMT 11/02/2007
:
: ...
: Scientists say that cosmic rays from outer space play a far
: greater role in changing the Earth's climate than global
: warming experts previously thought.
: In a book, to be published this week, they claim that
: fluctuations in the number of cosmic rays hitting the
: atmosphere directly alter the amount of cloud covering the
: planet.
: How cosmic rays could seed clouds diagram
: High levels of cloud cover blankets the Earth and reflects
: radiated heat from the Sun back out into space, causing the
: planet to cool.
: Henrik Svensmark, a weather scientist at the Danish National
: Space Centre who led the team behind the research, believes
: that the planet is experiencing a natural period of low
: cloud cover due to fewer cosmic rays entering the
: atmosphere.
: This, he says, is responsible for much of the global warming
: we are experiencing.
: He claims carbon dioxide emissions due to human activity are
: having a smaller impact on climate change than scientists
: think. If he is correct, it could mean that mankind has
: more time to reduce our effect on the climate.
: ...
:
: All this apart from the fact that the electric interaction
: between Ionosphere and Earth surface (working like a
: giantic capacitor) isn't found in any of those climate
: models - not to speak of the zillions of terrabytes on
: computermemory working on so called
: "weather-models".
: How can you expect some "eggspurts" to predict
: CLIMATE when they can't even forcast how's the WEATHER's
: gonna be tomorrow...
: Far Sight 3
:
GLOBAL WARMINGLERS ARE OVERLY WAY OFF FOR THE
: FUNDING THEY COLLECT...
: FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 7 February 2007, 9:01 a.m.
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