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I have watched you guys going back and forth and forth and back and actually you are all probably right. Maybe if you cooperate and put all your dots together you just might get a bigger picture???? WHY must there a right and wrong here???? The facts actually support both views, Global "warming" is both a natural and a man made fact. It is the appropiate time for our Planet to be going through changes, It does this ever so often, however humans have managed to do things that do and will contribute to the catastropic nature of these changes. i.e. building a nuclear plant on top of a fault line will make for a bigger bang when that fault line's volcano goes off. Does having a nuclear plant there make the volcano go off, probably not. But putting it there will definately give the volcano a bigger bang.
I agree that the issue of Global "warming" is being used by the tptb to establish a new religon, to me that is obvious. The facts of that are in the actions of the sides pro and con that have formed. That sort of divide and conquer tactics prevents many from catching on to the truth of both sides. And it is having the effect that the tptb want, nothing is being done. Just alot of talk and arguments and posturing and finger pointing is all that is happening. And yes I can see them using this as a means to try to control us even more.
There is more to this picture than meets the eye and the answer lays in the blending of all information available, not just the facts that support the idea we are attached to.
many blessings to us all and Safe Journeys ttfn jas
: Previous climate change have very strong orbital components.
: Other factors are more uncertain and less important. You
: should know this.
: Yes, correlation is not causation but that was what he was
: trying to drive at (I was not, only stating that today's
: CO2 level does not lag like earlier times).
: You are wrong about the cosmic ray/cloud theory. If that was a
: good theory, scientist would be jumping on the bandwagon!
: So, NO, it has NOT proven to be a good theory and that is
: not just an opinion of mine.
: He claims that there is no observational fact for CO2 warming,
: but then tagged on a 2006 data that does show the CO2
: effect in the atmosphere(at least he's honest on this
: point, but he should have rewrote his paragraph if that's
: the case!).
: He's saying he was on a gravy train but now knows better. I am
: saying that ALL 3 of his claims are WRONG on the 90%
: probability scale. If 1 is wrong by that scale that is bad,
: but all 3 are wrong by that scale.
: So, yes, I stick to my conclusion that he's not a scientist
: when he got all 3 claims wrong (to a high probability). It
: seems that his job is to do carbon accounting with computer
: programming on contract from the government and does very
: little climate science if any.
: Fluxon
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