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YOU ARE TOO PICKY, THE WORLD DECIDES BY PROBABILITY

Posted By: Fluxon
Date: Monday, 9-Jul-2007 04:42:33

In Response To: ...hmm.... (hobie)

Previous climate change have very strong orbital components. Other factors are more uncertain and less important. You should know this.

Yes, correlation is not causation but that was what he was trying to drive at (I was not, only stating that today's CO2 level does not lag like earlier times).

You are wrong about the cosmic ray/cloud theory. If that was a good theory, scientist would be jumping on the bandwagon! So, NO, it has NOT proven to be a good theory and that is not just an opinion of mine.

He claims that there is no observational fact for CO2 warming, but then tagged on a 2006 data that does show the CO2 effect in the atmosphere(at least he's honest on this point, but he should have rewrote his paragraph if that's the case!).

He's saying he was on a gravy train but now knows better. I am saying that ALL 3 of his claims are WRONG on the 90% probability scale. If 1 is wrong by that scale that is bad, but all 3 are wrong by that scale.

So, yes, I stick to my conclusion that he's not a scientist when he got all 3 claims wrong (to a high probability). It seems that his job is to do carbon accounting with computer programming on contract from the government and does very little climate science if any.

Fluxon

: (Australian, not Austrian.)

: (Honestly, you coulda gone all day without saying that. He
: _is_ a mathematician and computer guy, which suggests
: perhaps a greater familiarity with the intricacies, and
: failings, of computer modeling than scientists who are
: otherwise occupied with other lines of thought.)

: (Or try to. :)

: Sorry, I don't think that's knowable. The model would equally
: support, "The planet has self-adjusted," or,
: "We're wrong about the pollution thing and, honestly,
: we don't know what's causing these variations, yet."

: (I don't think that's knowable; certainly no controlled test
: could have been done to prove it out.)

: (Correlation is not causation.)

: (Hey - no need to be snide.)

: ...which is not proof of anything whatsoever, except that it's
: deemed more productive to work on some other theory -
: productive in terms of funding, among other reasons.

: In my view you have failed to debunk. :) Rather, you've
: reasserted the consensus theoretical view while sneering at
: someone else's view because of his 'failure' to "be a
: scientist".

: --hobie

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RagnarokJack -- Monday, 9-Jul-2007 00:42:36
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Fluxon -- Monday, 9-Jul-2007 01:29:27
...hmm....
hobie -- Monday, 9-Jul-2007 03:59:50
YOU ARE TOO PICKY, THE WORLD DECIDES BY PROBABILITY
Fluxon -- Monday, 9-Jul-2007 04:42:33
HANG ON HERE
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TheMythSmith -- Monday, 9-Jul-2007 12:26:54
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